It offered overdrive, but there was nothing tube ish about the tone, unless it was played through a tube amp. It was 9v powered, like most pedals, making it more marketable to a larger crowd. I was wondering if anyone has a schematic for the chandler rack mount tdr101 tube driver. Most people do not seem to be aware of the history or that the chandler versions are not up to par. Chandler tube driver rack i know there is some controversy over the bk butler situation but that none withstanding the 1 up racks are reasonably rare to come by and have the famed bias control. It is quite different from the original 4 knob pedal which i bought in 19867 but traded in a year later for the rackmount version. Butler tube driver the core circuit design on the 2000s reissue 911 tube driver is similar to the original 198587 versions, but there were several component value changes across the circuit that affect the way it sounds, as well as different pots. Because of the filtering going on in the tube driver circuit it is usable both ways. Preamp, opamp electronic circuits and electronic schematics for a variety. But looks like it originally was a schematic of the tube driver from 1986 done by mr. A tube is not included in the kit, you can select it suitably to your project. Chandler then tried to stop butler from making his tube drivers and real tubes pedals, claiming it was their circuit design and trademark.
Mar 16, 2010 im trying to setup a tube driver vst to come close to the chandler pedal. The circuit layout and pathways were very similar to the 1980s circuits, but there were several component value changes across the circuit that affect the way it sounds. Feb 28, 2012 the b k butler tube driver has been used by several of rock guitars greats david gilmour and eric johnson to name just two. What is the tube it is supposed to use according to the schematic. The chandler tube driver is an overdrive pedal most famously used by eric johnson, david gilmour, billy gibbons and joe satriani. This schematic is for the chandler wall mart version the one that doesnt say bk butler on the enclosure. It features controls for out level, eq sometimes split into high and low eq, and tube drive level. I suspect by the reference legendary that they are hinting at the tube driver by b. Im trying to setup a tube driver vst to come close to the chandler pedal. There are many schematics out there as well as a wealth of pcb projects. Dean markley overlord to b k butler tube driver so, ive got one of these and ive got to admit i agree with the advert its ugly as sin but it does sure cook an amp nicely, but it could be better.
Pedals with separate ac power supplies or wall warts are not original and do not sound the same. Chandler tube driver rack mount real tube overdriveboost. Wiring isnt very tidy as i had to flip the stomp switch because the tube did not fit anymore. Maybe its a correct schematic for the pedal being analysed here. I went through a lot of tubes before i found one that sounded good to me. Jan 10, 2018 12at7, 12ay7, 12au7 instead of a 12ax7 might tone it down. Secrets revealedwhats inside this bk butler tube driver real. Make offer vintage chandler rack tube driver 12ax7 overdrive rackmount effects. Ive only ever heard one, and it sounded good but i had nothing to ab it against. Chandler dynamo tube preamp for musical instruments. Please either pay in full in advance or 50% up front and the balance before shipping. Butler also known as built by tube works, chandler. Chandler tube driver vs tube works 911 telecaster guitar forum. The core of the pedal is a handselected 12ax7 tube which gives you a lovely sort of fuzzdrive sound than can sound amazingly smooth and textured in the hands of masters like david gilmour who still features 2 of these within his rig.
The tube driver is a legendary pedal used by players like eric johnson. I wonder if the same would hold true with tube swaps in the ad vt vox series. Chandler tube driver rack gearslutz pro audio community. Guitar pedal x gpx blog 6 of the best butler tube driver. Its hard to find one in mint condition and even if you do theyre usually about 15 years old. Jul 16, 2016 signal chain paul reed smith custom 22 brazilian ltd chandler tube driver orange dual terror mesa 4x12 rectifier slant akg c414 xlii api 512c a. Signal chain paul reed smith custom 22 brazilian ltd chandler tube driver orange dual terror mesa 4x12 rectifier slant akg c414. Ive located a few on ebay but since non of them ship to europe, i thinki. Then someone modified it to match with the 911 pedal. After a lot of thinking how to fix the tube inside the enclosure i came up with this. Utilization the general configuration of the tube driver is really easy to follow, and it is easy to get a good sound from this. The other 4 pedals featured reproduce the same sort of sound via transistorstyle circuits.
Chandler tube driver vs tube works 911 telecaster guitar. I snagged my first chandler tube driver pedal about 20 years a go, when they were still in abundant supply, and barely out of production. Modifications changing tubes tube drivers are sort of hybrid fuzz circuits. I had one of the rackmount chandler tube driver units in the late 1080s, and i was thoroughly unimpressed with it. Nov 2, 2016 bk butlerchandler tube driver current draw. Some used 4 knob tube drivers marked chandler are not the original design by bk butler. The circuit above uses all the techniques explained earlier in this document. Butler tube driver famously used by david gilmour, eric johnson, billy gibbons and joe satriani to name a few.
The tube driver is an overdrive with real tube sound. The chandler tube driver is a real tube based overdrive guitar pedal. Then i engrave my signature on the bottom of the case. In the many years that have followed, i have accumulated more than a few of these tube drivers. There are three different circuit boards used in the original bkbchandler 198587 tube drivers. Tc electronics tube pilot budget valve overdrive pedal. The tube king is reputed to be a very similar circuit design to the tube driver and the patent there certainly backs that notion up. The core of the pedal is a handselected 12ax7 tube which gives you. Well i got my bk butler tube driver wbias mod today and ive fiddled with it for a few hours and im still well in first impression territory but i have all too much to say about this pedal, so sorry for the short storybook im about to write. They are like an appliance with an electrical cord. Jul 02, 2009 you could also pick up one of the old rack tube drivers. Tube works 910 tube driver 3 knobs tube works 911 tube driver 4 knobs b.
This is a little different than the bk butler tube driver im told. Chandler tube driver rackmount tube works 902 real tube rackmount tube works 9 tube driver rackmount tube works 922 real tube ii rackmount. Unfollow chandler tube driver to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. You might or might not want to know that the tube driver uses an op amp solid state integrated circuit to create its distortion sound, and the tube is used after the distortion stage, in what is known as a starved plate circuit to color the sound of the op amp distortion. The pedal had already been used by gilmour, satriani, bonamassa, j mascis and many other great. Notice especially the difference in the bass settings between the two. These are great as far as they go, but they dont provide dirt from the output section of a tube amp the ot and speakers. Chandler tube driver or tube works tube driver were the originals i think.
Chandler tube drivers still command high prices on ebay, for example. Some used 4knob tube drivers marked chandler are not the original design by bk butler. I started looking into this after doing some makeovers to a couple of joyo pedals i had. Ive looked to compile the best and most reliable for this post.
Bk butlers original hand made tube driver guitar pedal used by eric johnson, david gilmour, billy gibbons, joe satriani, kenny wayne. Vintage 1987 chandler tube driver tdr10 effector rackmount. Get the best deals on tube guitar drivers when you shop the largest online selection at. Apr 06, 2012 dean markley overlord to b k butler tube driver so, ive got one of these and ive got to admit i agree with the advert its ugly as sin but it does sure cook an amp nicely, but it could be better. When using the tube driver as a parallel blend you can use it 2 ways. Works best with an already slightly breaking up amp to my ears.
When chandler copied the bk butler design they totally messed up the tone stack section all schematics to compare the different versions are here on. The tt classic pumps the tubes hard, while the bk designs are a little more like taking a solid state overdrive circuit, and replacing the clipping diode with a tube. The first one had a light tan colored pcb with components of. It might not be identical to the tube driver but its in the same sort of area. For greater savings check out our used chandler tube driver guitar preamp and get a great deal today. Top row left to right the crappy chandler knockoff from 1988, three bkb chandler tube drivers from 198687, and an ibanez tube king tk999us from 1995. The tube driver is being used on the main drum sound through out the song as well mostly on the snare. The tube driver is more appropriate for what you are looking for used to own one wish i hadnt traded it a tube screamer is best suited to pushing the front end of a tube amp into a nice singing lead type overdrive think srv. It is made in the usa has a 14 inch input and output and i believe is has a 12ax7 type tube.
Here at chandler amps we custom build hand wired, vintage style tube guitar amplifiers. I personally tune each one by ear for the best tone that fits the players needs. Signal chain paul reed smith custom 22 brazilian ltd chandler tube driver orange dual terror mesa 4x12 rectifier slant akg c414 xlii api 512c a. There are 3 different made tube driver by tubeworks. Used chandler tube driver guitar preamp guitar center. The pcb was completely different from the 198687 bkb chandler version, and had a slightly different. Each unit is hand built to my specs and i personally check out each tube driver to perfection. In that case, the tubishness was the tube amp it was being played through, not the tube driver unit itself. Free ggg diagrams, schematics, service manuals schematics. Tube is held in place by a lshaped piece of plastic which has a 18mm hole for the tube socket to go through. This is the original model, designed by bk butler, built by chandler. Chandler tube driver schematic help diy do it yourself.
Mp3 sound clip bk butler chandler tube driver from 1990s. Shown above top a pulse era bkb chandler tube driver circuit, and bottom the later 2007 bkb tube driver circuit with bias knob. The baja tube driver is basically a replica reverse engineered bk butler tube. Tube pilot is, according to tc electronic, a legendary tube overdrive modelled, but then further developed by them. Butler vs chandler tube driver by elswan64 20110401 chandler tube driver by elswan64 20161122 chandler tube driver with guitarsystems sam.
A hand made reissue of butlers original 911 tube driver tube works design from the 1990s. The ones ive included here are those that are readily available off ebay. Unfollow butler tube driver to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. This kit is a creation by th custom effects in cooperation with. The layout included is for an offboard tube socket not mounted on the pcb. Ggg diagrams, schematics and service manuals download for free. There are a lot of versions of this pedal and its variants, but if you search the web, theres tons of good info to help identify the good ones.
Chandler tube driver gearslutz pro audio community. This is not a reissue of the original 1980s bkb chandler tube driver versions. Free shipping on many items browse your favorite brands. The tube driver is a holy grail type pedal, but many people, especially younger players, have never heard of it. The first, original, one was the bk butler chandler tube driver. It definitely doesnt sound like a stock tube driver at. Mp3 sound clip bkb butler tube driver made in 2007. I just picked up a chandler tube driver rack mount version. If your chandler tube driver includes bk butlers name, its the real deal, built by butler and distributed by chandler. Just bought a tubeworks real tube pedal telecaster. Original chandler tube driver on the right, tubeworks 911 reissue on the left. Ive just opened mine up and the circuit board quite clearly reads patented. Forgot to mention before, if you have a chandler wall mart tube driver you can easily convert it to a authentic tube driver by rebuilding the tone stack section.
If youre wondering how these things sound heres a demo for you. I really want a rackmount butler or chandler or tube works tube driver. Have you seen how much your original bk butler chandler tube driver units are getting on ebay. Nov 2, 2016 bk butler chandler tube driver current draw.
With this kit you can build both variants written in the docs. Nov 02, 2016 nov 2, 2016 bk butlerchandler tube driver current draw. Find great deals on ebay for butler tube driver and butler tube driver car amp. You were making a limited run of 6 this year, any plans to mass produce them in the future. I took a look at various schematics with a view to modifying the overlord to fullfill its true. This version without debugging, mature and stable circuit, as long as not installed wrong, power on the ring. Well, more like over 200 so far, and hopefully well find more to add to the list of effect pedal clones. Chandler trademarked and owned the names tube driver and real tube overdrive, so after butler stopped making tube drivers for chandler to market and distribute in 1987, they copied his circuit and made this cheaper, simpler version in the usa. I found the schematic for it but dont know how to read itlolim trying to find what eq settings to use to come close to the pedal. When chandler copied the bk butler design they totally messed up the tone stack section all schematics to compare the different versions are here on this thread. Mozesz usunac ta wiadomosc i otrzymac wiele dodatkowych mozliwosci, ulepszajac hosting do pro lub vip za jedyne 5. The knobs shown on the photo are not included in the kit. It was very picky about tubes for decent tone especially 12ax7 for gain, 12au7 seemed less variable. There are three different circuit boards used in the original bkbchandler 1985 87 tube drivers.
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